In the fifth episode of the season, Dean Connelly, founder of Latte Recruitment is joined by Nyree Ambarchian, co-founder at Jack and Grace and Ella McWilliam, co-founder and CEO at Full Fat to discuss the We Show The Salary pledge and the practicalities of making wages transparent in a PR agency.

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1 min: Dean and Elizabeth say hello and introduce the We Show The Salary pledge

4 min: "it's about progression, not perfection"

5 min: Dean introduces of Ella McWilliam, co-founder of Full Fat and Nyree founder of Jack and Grace

6 min: Nyree discusses why salary transparency is important

8 min: Ella descirbes it as a "no brainer"

14 min: "there's this shadiness in dark corners where inequality is flourishing."

20 min: A framework and a scorecard for salary brackets would help eliminate unconscious bias

"It would help to eliminate inflated salaries."

24 min: "These things tend to reveal themselves one way or another, you get an inkling that you're not being paid fairly."

27 min: agency leaders need to be "open to feedback" and create a culture when feedback is welcomed.

28 min: What are the steps involved in becoming transparent with salary?